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Title: Any other Wheel of Time fans?
Post by: Honeycomb on January 29, 2010, 08:36:17 PM
Besides Vortex (who has a character named Egwene alVere), who all has read Robert Jordan's fantasy novel series about the Dragon Reborn, The Wheel of Time?

I think a few aspects of UO are built on this fantasy novel series: Dreadlords, gate travel

I post on a Wheel of Time forum, and I am considering recruiting there for new UO players (to Siege, of course!)  I just wanted to make everyone here aware of my ponderings on this, so that if I do it and people come here and start talking about The Wheel of Time (which they call WOT), you all will know what I mean.   

If there are enough people interested, I was even considering starting a WOT house in GIL.  Once I get a job I will be reopening my other account where I have my WOT archer Birgitte.
Title: Re: Any other Wheel of Time fans?
Post by: Vortex on January 29, 2010, 11:48:00 PM
Quote from: Honeycomb on January 29, 2010, 08:36:17 PM
Besides Vortex (who has a character named Egwene alVere), who all has read Robert Jordan's fantasy novel series about the Dragon Reborn, The Wheel of Time?


You are the first person to catch that.
Title: Re: Any other Wheel of Time fans?
Post by: Honeycomb on January 30, 2010, 12:38:48 AM
Quote from: Vortex on January 29, 2010, 11:48:00 PM
Quote from: Honeycomb on January 29, 2010, 08:36:17 PM
Besides Vortex (who has a character named Egwene alVere), who all has read Robert Jordan's fantasy novel series about the Dragon Reborn, The Wheel of Time?


You are the first person to catch that.

Did you catch mine, back when I had my account active with my archer, Birgitte?

I wanted her guild title to be Silverbow, but alas her house required otherwise.... perhaps if we get a WOT house then Egwene's guild title could be Amyrlin Seat.  ;)
Title: Re: Any other Wheel of Time fans?
Post by: Troop on January 30, 2010, 01:00:56 AM
I will have to read this. It sounds interesting.

I don't suppose there is anything in the stories about those who wear purple?
Title: Re: Any other Wheel of Time fans?
Post by: Honeycomb on January 30, 2010, 01:06:27 AM
Quote from: Troop on January 30, 2010, 01:00:56 AM
I will have to read this. It sounds interesting.

I don't suppose there is anything in the stories about those who wear purple?

There are many mages who wear purple in The Wheel of Time novels, Troop!

Only, at first at least, all the mage are female.   They call themselves Aes Sedai.
Title: Re: Any other Wheel of Time fans?
Post by: Ian James on January 30, 2010, 12:21:36 PM
Actually I caught both the references, I just never said anything.   

I never finished the last book, I lost interest when he died in the middle of my reading it.  Not sure I want to read the Jordan by proxy novel that is supposed to complete the series either.
Title: Re: Any other Wheel of Time fans?
Post by: Honeycomb on January 30, 2010, 07:03:02 PM
Quote from: Ian James on January 30, 2010, 12:21:36 PM
Actually I caught both the references, I just never said anything.   

I never finished the last book, I lost interest when he died in the middle of my reading it.  Not sure I want to read the Jordan by proxy novel that is supposed to complete the series either.


I am mortified to admit that my first emotion on hearing that Robert Jordan had died was anger!  I was so mad that the series was not finished, and the author was dead.  Sadness came later. 

I have not been able to afford yet to buy the latest Wheet of Time book, by the successor Brandon Sanderson.  My buddies at the WOT forums at www.dragonmount.com assure me though that once you get over the slightly different voice of the new author, it does feel like you are reading WOT.
Title: Re: Any other Wheel of Time fans?
Post by: Kael on January 31, 2010, 02:53:58 AM
Its an awesome read  ;D

Terry Goodkind's Sword of Truth series is very similar in both plot and series length. I would recommend it as well to those that enjoyed the Wheel of Time and haven't had a chance to read it yet.
Title: Re: Any other Wheel of Time fans?
Post by: Honeycomb on January 31, 2010, 02:19:48 PM
Quote from: Kael on January 31, 2010, 02:53:58 AM
Its an awesome read  ;D

Terry Goodkind's Sword of Truth series is very similar in both plot and series length. I would recommend it as well to those that enjoyed the Wheel of Time and haven't had a chance to read it yet.


Terry Goodkind's Sword of Truth series has some very horrible daughter on father violence, and Goodkind is preachy -- not much at all like The Wheel of Time, imo.
Title: Re: Any other Wheel of Time fans?
Post by: Eowyn on February 01, 2010, 02:02:11 AM
QuoteYou are the first person to catch that.

No the second I just could not get into Jordan.
Title: Re: Any other Wheel of Time fans?
Post by: Honeycomb on February 01, 2010, 03:47:02 AM
Quote from: Eowyn on February 01, 2010, 02:02:11 AM
QuoteYou are the first person to catch that.

No the second I just could not get into Jordan.

The Wheel of Time series doesn't really take off until the 3rd book.  It is not for everyone though, of course..   And it is more than 10,000 pages long.


PS  Thanks again for permission to let her recolor your sig for Azul!  What do you think of it?  I love it!  Check your PMs Aeowyn, your GIL sig is in there!
Title: Re: Any other Wheel of Time fans?
Post by: Eowyn on February 03, 2010, 07:55:26 PM
I love long books and even more several books in a series. My three favorite authors are Mercedies Lacky/ Lary Dickson, Piers Anthony and Robin Hobb. I recently got into an author who wrights paranormal romance Katie Macalister. Shes a scream it's like Terry Pratchet meets ummm some decent vampire dragon author out there.

Glad you like your sig.
Oh and Robert Pattinson posed for a gay mens mag prior to HP and Twilight.
Title: Re: Any other Wheel of Time fans?
Post by: Honeycomb on February 03, 2010, 09:14:53 PM
Quote from: Eowyn on February 03, 2010, 07:55:26 PM
I love long books and even more several books in a series. My three favorite authors are Mercedies Lacky/ Lary Dickson, Piers Anthony and Robin Hobb. I recently got into an author who wrights paranormal romance Katie Macalister. Shes a scream it's like Terry Pratchet meets ummm some decent vampire dragon author out there.

Glad you like your sig.
Oh and Robert Pattinson posed for a gay mens mag prior to HP and Twilight.


I have read lots of Mercedes Lackey! She got her start in Marion Zimmer Bradley's Fantasy Magazine, and I still have those issues with her first stories in them.


I would love to see those Robert Pattinson pics!
Title: Re: Any other Wheel of Time fans?
Post by: Eowyn on February 07, 2010, 11:13:05 AM
"I would love to see those Robert Pattinson pics! "
You want the naked Harry Potter ones too?
Title: Re: Any other Wheel of Time fans?
Post by: Honeycomb on February 07, 2010, 10:18:41 PM
The more the merrier!

(But pm them please, so we don't hijack this WOT thread.)
Title: Re: Any other Wheel of Time fans?
Post by: Eowyn on February 09, 2010, 04:34:29 PM
Google is your friend, that and the b chan fiends.
Come on Daniel Radcliff was the star of Equis nudies of him abound.
Title: Re: Any other Wheel of Time fans?
Post by: Sargon on February 10, 2010, 07:26:07 PM
Quote from: Kael on January 31, 2010, 02:53:58 AM
Terry Goodkind's Sword of Truth series is very similar in both plot and series length. I would recommend it as well to those that enjoyed the Wheel of Time and haven't had a chance to read it yet.
For some reason I've always been to intimidated to start into the Wheel of Time series, but I'm a big Sword of Truth fan.  Someone mentioned Goodkind being preachy, and he definitely is to some extent, but I still found the series extremely enjoyable.
Title: Re: Any other Wheel of Time fans?
Post by: Honeycomb on February 10, 2010, 07:39:34 PM
Quote from: Sargon on February 10, 2010, 07:26:07 PM
Quote from: Kael on January 31, 2010, 02:53:58 AM
Terry Goodkind's Sword of Truth series is very similar in both plot and series length. I would recommend it as well to those that enjoyed the Wheel of Time and haven't had a chance to read it yet.
For some reason I've always been to intimidated to start into the Wheel of Time series, but I'm a big Sword of Truth fan.  Someone mentioned Goodkind being preachy, and he definitely is to some extent, but I still found the series extremely enjoyable.

Robert Jordan is even more enjoyable to read, without any of that preachiness.  It is probably the length of the Wheel of Time series that intimidates you.  It is 12 novels so far, with two more planned, and each novel is 800+ pages.  Goodkind's Sword of Truth series is almost as long, but at least it is already finished.

It is sort of uncanny, too, how much the two series have in common.  Goodkind has the Stone of Tears, and Jordan has the Stone of Tear.  Goodkind has the Sisters of the Light, and Jordan has Aes Sedai.  I think maybe the two authors were friends and did this on purpose to raz each other.  Fans have speculated that one or the other was copying. 
Title: Re: Any other Wheel of Time fans?
Post by: Vortex on February 11, 2010, 04:41:29 PM
David Eddings is the best tho.
Title: Re: Any other Wheel of Time fans?
Post by: Goodah on February 11, 2010, 08:36:53 PM
Thanks for the info. I still have a lot of gift cards at Borders and Barnes & Nobles to burn!

Adds to list of things to read:
-Wheel of Time Series
-Sword of Truth Series

I think the last thing I read was the Temeraire Trilogy/Series by Naomi Novik that my wife picked it up for me just because there was a dragon on the cover.  Glad she did coz I enjoyed it.  I was going to read the Chronicles of Amber next but my son was born and I haven't picked up a book since then which was 4 years ago?...he heh.
Title: Re: Any other Wheel of Time fans?
Post by: Vortex on February 11, 2010, 09:05:18 PM
Belgarath series by David Eddings....trust me
Title: Re: Any other Wheel of Time fans?
Post by: Eowyn on February 13, 2010, 10:51:13 AM
Quote from: Vortex on February 11, 2010, 04:41:29 PM
David Eddings is the best tho.
X2 The Belgariad and the Malorion.
Title: Re: Any other Wheel of Time fans?
Post by: Marvin on February 15, 2010, 05:39:26 PM
Anyone knows the context between WOT and Excalibur ?!

I dont know WOT (sounds interesting) yet, however for those familiar with the "legend" of excalibur the following:

The excalibur story is merely a metaphor for something that happened (with truth in order to protect it from evil). The meaning of the term "excalibur" is revealed by understanding of elder german language. Excalibur - a utmost powerful weapon against evil - is not a physical weapon (s-word) as it is told but a figurative one like in "word-s". The german origin indicates that the essence is hidden by turning letters, etc. Only King Artus is able to pull the sword from the rock (unreachable for others). But the historical Arthus has less in common with that figure but his name, which is pronounces Art- u - s, a signpost meaning "use art" ! That's the hidden sense why e.g. in the hollywood film (another kind of art)  "the 5th element" with Bruce Willis the most needed weapon ingredient against evil was hidden in the belly of an artist (singer) !! Furthermore in the apocalypse of the bible you can read of an angel (rider) who beat ppl with a sword coming from its mouth (instead of its tongue) - ouch...truth never hits the teller...lies do !

The reason i am telling you this is because there may be hidden truth in stories like WOT that is not spoken out openly. Yet i m not sure about that because in that context truth in arts provokes counteraction (by its enemies) which always try to beat quality by quantity...a quote of a former harvard head would suit best here...maybe i can find and add it.
Title: Re: Any other Wheel of Time fans?
Post by: Kael on February 15, 2010, 06:08:19 PM
Quote from: Eowyn on February 13, 2010, 10:51:13 AM
Quote from: Vortex on February 11, 2010, 04:41:29 PM
David Eddings is the best tho.
X2 The Belgariad and the Malorion.

I enjoyed those series as well
Title: Re: Any other Wheel of Time fans?
Post by: Honeycomb on February 15, 2010, 09:34:41 PM
Quote from: Marvin on February 15, 2010, 05:39:26 PM
Anyone knows the context between WOT and Excalibur ?!


Excalibur is one of my favorite movies. :)  I love stories of King Arthur.

Robert Jordan deliberately uses elements and names from Arthurian Legend and many other legends. His premise is that the Wheel of Time turns and what was yesterday becomes confused and mottled with the passing of time until is is almost unrecognizable...  Artur Paendrag is nevertheless a pominent figure in the WOT novels.