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Title: Lower my Taming?
Post by: N49ATV on December 28, 2009, 08:13:12 AM
Hey guys, just wondering what templates you are running. Im thinking I might lower my taming for a few things. Its 120/120/120 right now, was thinking going 110s or 115s, to give a few more points to put ninja on my stealth template, and make room for herding (which I was hoping would work on monsters for me, but only tameable ones :/)

What do ya think is really needed for tamer lore? and how much control of my GD will I lose if I run 110s? I could always imbue a +10/10/10 jewel
Title: Re: Lower my Taming?
Post by: Goodah on December 28, 2009, 05:42:08 PM
I have 110 Taming, 102.2 Lore, and 100 Vet on my tamer and have no problems controlling a GD or a Cu Sidhe.  If I didn't need the stable slots, I would probably bring Vet down more to the min needed to res a pet. 
Title: Re: Lower my Taming?
Post by: Sir Morder on December 28, 2009, 06:43:39 PM
If you are a tamer and plan on usin a pet for anything other than monster farming i would recommend stoning vet all together. If you are gonna use a pet in pvp and still want some sort of vet skill i would run just 50 vet. You can then put a pair of jewels (imbued to +15 vet skill each) in the bank and if your pet dies and you dont, then just go to a bank, put on your jewels and res pet. This will free up 70 points for you for pvp. If ya wanna put taming at 110 and lore at 110 then you would have 90 points for a skill like ninja (no fail llama form i think).
Title: Re: Lower my Taming?
Post by: N49ATV on December 28, 2009, 07:09:27 PM
I wont be PvP with pet. Ill stick to mage. Though im gonna need the pets to farm silver (if price is right at interview this morning, and I take the local job). And do spawns, or farm gold. Im gonna need vet for the few places I farm. Just looking to lean out my template a bit.
Title: Re: Lower my Taming?
Post by: Tjalle on December 29, 2009, 12:39:51 AM
Lea runs 120/120/120 also and still has ninjitsu. She´s just that awesome...  :o
Title: Re: Lower my Taming?
Post by: N49ATV on December 29, 2009, 04:57:19 PM
lol, yeah currently i got...

120/120/120
115 mage
100 hide
75 stealth

made a 10/10/10 throw away brace, gonna drop to 10s, leave everything else as is, and make room for 100 heard, 100 fish, 100 detect or track, scribe, whatever.
Title: Re: Lower my Taming?
Post by: Bruin on December 29, 2009, 05:28:09 PM
Does herding serve any purpose other than being able to like herd those orange beetles to a safe area of the dungeon before taming them?
Title: Re: Lower my Taming?
Post by: N49ATV on December 29, 2009, 05:50:54 PM
well when I ran it up, i didnt read up enough on it. was gonna use it for farming, but then I realized its only good for tamables. So I guess if you are getting bugs, or drags to tame. Another one I saw it used for was to protect against raiders on riktor. Herd 5 or 6 drags to entrances, and keep them at bay. I really wanted to use it to farm in bedlam, but alas that idea is shot
Title: Re: Lower my Taming?
Post by: Eowyn on December 30, 2009, 01:18:31 AM
I hope you already know if they aggo on anything including you you lose the herding and have to re target and you can only herd aggressive things while hidden and stealthing. I will reactivate my ninja herder in the next 2 weeks.
Title: Re: Lower my Taming?
Post by: N49ATV on December 30, 2009, 01:53:00 AM
Oh, its fine, I got that sorted out. To be honest I wanted to herd RCs away from spawn for me, but they cant be herded :/ sucks. Not sure ill keep it.
Title: Re: Lower my Taming?
Post by: Troop on December 31, 2009, 02:34:36 AM
Wow. Now I want to train herding too.  ;D It seems like it may be of limited use but maybe you can still have a lot of fun with it.

Question: Can you herd up a whole bunch of things at once? Like 100 Gamans or something?
Title: Re: Lower my Taming?
Post by: N49ATV on December 31, 2009, 02:55:41 AM
There is no limit to the number of "tameable" creatures you heard. If they are agro creatures (that will attack you) if they decide to go after something (say a blue NPC, or any other char) then you have to re-heard it.

So yes you could have 50 gamans follow you. And it doesnt break stealth. Its used to grief a bit, such as luring 5 GD to the entrance of Destard, to kill anyone who enters. Or lure all the lessar and greater hiryus to the gate in tok.

It has its uses, although I think it should be upped a bit.
Title: Re: Lower my Taming?
Post by: Troop on December 31, 2009, 02:11:39 PM
More questions! Can you herd up things and run them through moon gates?

I was thinking that it might be fun to have like two or three people herd up a whole mess of stuff and run a stampede.
Title: Re: Lower my Taming?
Post by: Ian James on December 31, 2009, 04:44:49 PM
No to the moongates. Otherwise, we could create all sorts of havoc, it would be a blast.
Title: Re: Lower my Taming?
Post by: N49ATV on December 31, 2009, 06:20:44 PM
No moon gates, no magical gates
Title: Re: Lower my Taming?
Post by: Troop on December 31, 2009, 09:08:48 PM
I will start to train herding. I think this would be a lot of fun if we had multiple herders running a stampede.
Title: Re: Lower my Taming?
Post by: N49ATV on December 31, 2009, 11:15:48 PM
Its pretty easy to train. Grab a bag of crooks from the NPC, or maybe make a 5 GM ones. Head over to the sheep pen, and heard them for a bit. When gains slow, i think i went to jhlome pen, then over to ice, and finished on GH (to 70 anyway).

I dont understand herding training sytem myself. To train you follow the animal taming guide. But its not difficulty based to heard animals? So at 70, i have a 70% chance to herd. So why does it matter what i train on. All a little confusing to me.
Title: Re: Lower my Taming?
Post by: Eowyn on January 02, 2010, 06:51:39 PM
I had a blast back in my noob days with herding and if you truly have the time and taming you can import creatures to herd as well. I owned Ilish Spirit back int the day and even got Krystal ....she had a bed o nails deed on her WHOOT!
You can even cause PvP havoc with enough animals for people to trip over. I also loved parking tons of foxes on WyRms doorstep.
Title: Re: Lower my Taming?
Post by: Troop on January 02, 2010, 10:01:35 PM
As soon as I have taming in rot, I am going to start to work on herding.