Statement regarding auctions

Started by Hoffs, June 09, 2018, 10:11:09 pm

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Hoffs

Firstly, apologies for the what happened at the end of the auction. For the first time we had someone outside the auction house disrupting the event by buying items off the vendors, namely the fake CharGar. Fortunately, immediately afterwards our contact in Luna personally witnessed this character handing off a bag there to a character named Juggernaut at a house owned by Scoobies Doobies of the DA guild. Consequently, we declined to honour the penultimate sale to another Juggernaut character from that guild. Of course, this provoked reactions from the allies of DA and things went rapidly downhill after the auction.

It is a real shame that things like this continue to happen and new ways are found of disrupting an event which is done for the benefit of the whole community. Gilfane has been running unbroken auctions for over three years now without taking commissions and we have always endeavoured to maintain the highest standards. The whole process is a fair amount of work and we hold ultimate responsibility for the goods, the auctioneer needing to compensate people out his own pocket on the odd occasion where there has been a loss or dispute, such as when an item was stolen from the podium once. Regrettably it seems we have now reached the point where we are no longer prepared to continue with it. Attendance has been low at the last couple of auctions and prices have been very poor. This latest incident will just make the situation worse and take away more potential bidders and contributors. Therefore, the GSF auctions are hereby suspended until further notice. Perhaps we can review matters after the summer, but for now, if any other group would like to start up a replacement, please do so.

Let me close by giving a big thank you to everyone who has supported the auctions over the past few years.

Tjalle


Natalia

I'm very sad to hear that griefers have disrupted this auction to the point that it will not be held.  It was a great event for the community.

Victim

Unfortunate news Hoffs, Thank you to all of Gilfane for your dedication to this service to the shard.

Blind Otto

Thank you to everyone who contributed to the success, and to bringing the community together.
To those whose stupidity ruined it for the whole shard, may your eventual fates be slow and painful, and your lives forgettable and meaningless.


Hoffs

I would just like to make one clarification to the statement, namely about the exchange that took place between the fake CharGar and Juggernaut. This was not a trade window transaction but a case of the fake CharGar putting the bag on the ground and then Juggernaut picking it up and going back into the house. And regardless of whether any exchange was actually seen or not, the mere fact that the two met up briefly in the midst of all that was taking place would have been reason enough to raise suspicion, to say the least.

The_Juggernaut

Quote from: Hoffs on June 12, 2018, 05:06:43 am
I would just like to make one clarification to the statement, namely about the exchange that took place between the fake CharGar and Juggernaut. This was not a trade window transaction but a case of the fake CharGar putting the bag on the ground and then Juggernaut picking it up and going back into the house. And regardless of whether any exchange was actually seen or not, the mere fact that the two met up briefly in the midst of all that was taking place would have been reason enough to raise suspicion, to say the least.





The_Juggernaut

I was always under the impression that Gilfane stood by its high standards of honor and respect, but Hoffs, with your finger pointing, assumptions, false accusations, and heavy reaching in this post, you have sunk to a new low, around the same level of the Luna Boys. I am extremely disappointed in you.

Hoffs

As we trust our Luna source implicitly, and as the house in question belongs to your guild, we have to stand by our beliefs. But regardless, you have nobody but yourself to blame for how things eventually unfolded. If you had just walked away from the auction when you had the chance, before any accusations were made to anyone (including yourself), then this would probably just been handled privately between the two alliances. But no, as usual, you, Bo and the rest showed yourselves to have brains the size of a quark and started the incessant arguing and moaning, then killing everyone at the Governor's meeting, which had nothing to do with the auction: the typical "BO ANGRY", "BO DESTROY!!" mentality. And that is what caused all this to become public.

Bo

Its our fault??  it is Bo's fault you draw false conclusions?  It's Bo's fault that your guildmates at the end of the auction stood there and told us that the item was sniped off of a vendor? 
Its our fault you are drawing conclusions that what we did at the governors meeting had anything to do with you??  in the great USA we have a saying about assumptions, this time you just making an ass outta yourselves.
For a group of people who mind you have the balls to call themselves "white council"  you certainly didn't show any sign of that on how you all handled yourselves with this situation. 
Sure your funny little poke at the bo with "bo angry, bo destroy" is cute and your fancy quirky word is all fluff for what you are trying to do. 

here are the facts.   
1.  someone named chargar sniped an item off of the vendor
2.  the only chargar, Bo saw at auction was in your guild. 
3.  you accepted a bid for a crimmy from jugs
4.  Amadoofus showed up bo went out to kill him.  cause creeper was about to get slaughtered. 
5.  Jugs tells Bo, hey they wont sell me that item
6.  Bo goes and asks why.  At that point your guild went bananas..  they were sayin that it was sniped off of a vendor and bo was like come on you are lying (they were).  then they started calling us names and shit was certainly not "white council" material. 

That's the point here, if you are going to claim your white council and honorable you accepted a bid you should honor it. 
that story about jugs and char first with a trade window and than with a bag?  seriously??  who doesn't trade stuff through the trade window??  great idea just plop on ground and let some stealther come by and grab it..  If it were jugs why wouldn't you do it in a remote house somewhere.  Shit Jugs is in Bo's guild and bo doesn't even know where all his houses are. 



Razz

June 16, 2018, 12:14:54 am #10 Last Edit: June 16, 2018, 12:28:25 am by Razz
Quote from: Bo on June 15, 2018, 07:32:32 pm

That's the point here, if you are going to claim your white council and honorable you accepted a bid you should honor it.  



From the rules on every one of our auction fliers:

Quote from: Hoffs on April 26, 2018, 03:53:02 pmConfidentiality & liability

Final responsibility for items being sold, monies raised thereon and the conduct of the auction, lies with the auctioneer.


That includes the option for any auction to be nullified. Anytime, for any reason.

There is no Crimmy. There are no more Auctions.    

If you have any further questions please contact our support team.





Tjalle

Quote from: Bo on June 15, 2018, 07:32:32 pmthat story about jugs and char first with a trade window and than with a bag?


You were actually the first person to ever mention a trade window.
Post #53
https://stratics.com/threads/jun-9-2018-gsf-june-auction-gilfane-arena.399911/page-2

Just saying...

Siege

GIL will honor the auction of the crimmy... or else.

just sayin'

Siege Perilous

Razz

Quote from: Siege on June 17, 2018, 12:53:28 am
GIL will honor the auction of the crimmy... or else.

just sayin'

Siege Perilous


From the rules on every one of our auction fliers:

Quote from: Hoffs on April 26, 2018, 03:53:02 pmConfidentiality & liability

Final responsibility for items being sold, monies raised thereon and the conduct of the auction, lies with the auctioneer.


That includes the option for any auction to be nullified. Anytime, for any reason.

There is no Crimmy. There are no more Auctions.   

If you have any further questions please contact our support team.

Tjalle

Quote from: Siege on June 17, 2018, 12:53:28 am
GIL will honor the auction of the crimmy... or else.

just sayin'

Siege Perilous


*scratches head*

Or else what?
Our food will turn blue? Left will become right and right will become left? You´ll give out free gold?
Please enlighten us...  ;D