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Title: Sunday Arena Duels
Post by: Calavera on February 25, 2019, 12:32:53 AM
Hey folks,

I just wanted to encourage any of you who have any interest in it to try out the arena duels on Sunday. I am posting this here because I noticed a couple of GIL online during the time that I was there. It would be nice to have more folks who were good but not SP good for us amatuers to spar against. Even Billy behaves (at least he behaves after losing two suits in the guardzone today). Bring Malloc to, we are gonna do some Turkish bath wrestling ;)
Title: Re: Sunday Arena Duels
Post by: LennyM95 on February 25, 2019, 01:38:02 AM
I'm just speaking for me; sorry I have no interest in this. Glad that it is enjoyable for those that are doing it. Malloc is a crafter and will not be wrestling you.
Title: Re: Sunday Arena Duels
Post by: Max Blackoak on February 25, 2019, 08:25:51 AM
to clarify: Billy didn't lose his suits as a result of the duels, he got guardwhacked and was then looted by Nightstalker.
The arena duels are considered a no looting event by us and so far all participants have stuck to that rule.
Title: Re: Sunday Arena Duels
Post by: Calavera on February 26, 2019, 01:01:06 AM
That is my bad I should have been more clear Max. Anyway I understand if no one is interested, I just happened to pass one of you guys on my way to the arena and you were fighting Billy, so I thought the arena may interest you all. Take care.
Title: Re: Sunday Arena Duels
Post by: Wolfman on February 26, 2019, 09:47:37 PM
Quote from: Max Blackoak on February 25, 2019, 08:25:51 AM
to clarify: Billy didn't lose his suits as a result of the duels, he got guardwhacked and was then looted by Nightstalker.
The arena duels are considered a no looting event by us and so far all participants have stuck to that rule.
Doubt it would work when we show up.....never did in the past....so I pass.
Title: Re: Sunday Arena Duels
Post by: Max Blackoak on February 27, 2019, 09:16:43 AM
on what occasion did we loot you guys when we said we wouldn't loot? To my knowledge no member of VICE has ever broken the no looting rule when we had the Sunday VvV fights. On one occasion we even helped you get your stuff back when Ol'Dirty Basterd looted you. Would have been easy for us to say there was nothing on his corpse but a bag of sending... so I'm not really sure where this is coming from. Care to enlighten me?
Title: Re: Sunday Arena Duels
Post by: Wolfman on February 27, 2019, 06:30:40 PM
While you were on vacation, basically the whole incident that stopped the Sunday fights: Siege, Bo and Cherokee (not 100% sure about him/her) fought us. We had 2 casualties and Siege was doing his usual smacktalk and Bo chimed in in gen chat....we got rezed by a healer returned to our bodies and both were partially looted. Not by those three but by bystanders who later said in chat that they would just loot GIL not Vice and Siege was VERY happy about that.
So.....having a loot group not in your guild or alliance but letting them do the looting is the same thing as looting yourself, at least to me.
Title: Re: Sunday Arena Duels
Post by: Max Blackoak on February 27, 2019, 09:10:18 PM
Siege does not speak for VICE, nor is he in VICE any longer (and wasn't for a while before I was on vacation).
Title: Re: Sunday Arena Duels
Post by: Wolfman on February 27, 2019, 10:00:36 PM
and Bo is neither I know...since he just jumped the bandwagon on that one!
Title: Re: Sunday Arena Duels
Post by: Max Blackoak on February 27, 2019, 10:31:05 PM
No, Bo is in VICE.

You're mixing up two different things though. GC trashtalk (love it or hate it) and looting when there was a no looting agreement.



Title: Re: Sunday Arena Duels
Post by: Wolfman on February 27, 2019, 10:37:54 PM
Quote from: Max Blackoak on February 27, 2019, 10:31:05 PM
No, Bo is in VICE.

You're mixing up two different things though. GC trashtalk (love it or hate it) and looting when there was a no looting agreement.
As I said:
Running off and letting other ppl loot is the same as looting yourself to me!
Title: Re: Sunday Arena Duels
Post by: Max Blackoak on February 27, 2019, 11:41:55 PM
if you know people are going to loot, then yes but I doubt that Bo or whoever else was there knew that those people were going to loot.
It's pointless to argue about this. I wasn't there so I don't know what really went on.

Unless you mess up like Billy and get yourself guardwhacked though, it will be hard to loot you at the arena because it's guardzone and you get ressed instantly by an npc when you leave the arena.

Title: Re: Sunday Arena Duels
Post by: Wolfman on February 28, 2019, 04:27:58 AM
Quote from: Max Blackoak on February 27, 2019, 11:41:55 PM
if you know people are going to loot, then yes but I doubt that Bo or whoever else was there knew that those people were going to loot.
It's pointless to argue about this. I wasn't there so I don't know what really went on.


Then why do you do it?
Title: Re: Sunday Arena Duels
Post by: Max Blackoak on February 28, 2019, 08:51:03 AM
because initially I misunderstood your vague accusation and thought that you said VICE has looted when we had a no looting agreement.
Title: Re: Sunday Arena Duels
Post by: Bo on March 01, 2019, 01:36:31 AM
Bo has never read such a crock of shit in Bo's life.....
At no point in time has Bo let someone loot you or any of your guildies that are NOT in Bo's alliance, when we stated we wouldn't loot. 
You are simply making shit up at this point in time.  If we watched you get looted, oh you would have cried so hard max would have heard it on vacation.  .
What you are saying never happened when the Bo was there. 
Now the shit talk sure Bo might have thrown some jabs at ya, it is a game isn't it? 
Title: Re: Sunday Arena Duels
Post by: Bo on March 01, 2019, 01:42:34 AM
Yall stopped the sunday VVV thing because of CharGar buying something from the auction that someone else had bid on.  Yall ASSUMED it was us with a character named Chargar, so in your infinite wisdom yall thought it would be best to stop VVV, and you than stopped the auctions and blamed it all on VICE. 
Your assumption was that we would get bored, pack up and move on.  And if you could try to tarnish our names maybe the rest of the shard would side with ya and not deal with us forcing us off of siege. 
Title: Re: Sunday Arena Duels
Post by: LennyM95 on March 01, 2019, 01:58:37 AM
Wow you are delusional and so full of yourself. Are you sure you are not Grimlex?
Title: Re: Sunday Arena Duels
Post by: LennyM95 on March 01, 2019, 02:25:16 AM
Seriously Bo do you really believe we tried and had a goal to force Vice off of Siege? This is the first I have ever heard anyone bring this up. I doubt very much anyone could ever force myself off of Siege and I do not believe anyone such as yourself could have that done to them.

Your reputation is your own making. All that you say reflects on you. All of your actions reflects on you. For good or for bad you are what you made yourself be. 
Title: Re: Sunday Arena Duels
Post by: Siege on March 01, 2019, 05:01:28 AM
sunday arena duels are fun and increase skill of all who watch/fight... to be clear Siege Perilous (me ) is no longer VICE. i have not been VICE for a long time now. showing up to Arena sundays is safe and in guard zone... and u get to kick max's ass and maybe kill bo once in a while... u never get to kill Siege tho >=] cuz ur not good enough... show up and get good
Title: Re: Sunday Arena Duels
Post by: Wolfman on March 01, 2019, 06:39:03 AM
Quote from: Bo on March 01, 2019, 01:36:31 AM
You are simply making shit up at this point in time.  If we watched you get looted, oh you would have cried so hard max would have heard it on vacation.  .
What you are saying never happened when the Bo was there. 
Now the shit talk sure Bo might have thrown some jabs at ya, it is a game isn't it?
Right!
You never fough alongside Siege while Max was gone, since he left VICE.
Right, you never joined in on all the smacktalk when Siege was congratulating the looter on a job well done.....
as usual we are making things up and you have the truth!
Title: Re: Sunday Arena Duels
Post by: Tjalle on March 02, 2019, 12:29:40 AM
Quote from: Siege on March 01, 2019, 05:01:28 AM
... to be clear Siege Perilous (me ) is no longer VICE. i have not been VICE for a long time now.

So, are you saying you´re still in VICE?
Because according to your own words and actions, even when a person leaves a guild, he/she is still in the guild and should be treated as such. Or does that only apply to people other than yourself?
Can´t have the cake and eat it too, ya know.  ;)

Sorry Max. I guess Siege is still in VICE and speak for VICE. At least, according to him...
Title: Re: Sunday Arena Duels
Post by: Bo on March 02, 2019, 03:44:54 AM
every point the bo made was in reference to the Wolfman saying "While you were on vacation, basically the whole incident that stopped the Sunday fights: Siege, Bo and Cherokee (not 100% sure about him/her) fought us. We had 2 casualties and Siege was doing his usual smacktalk and Bo chimed in in gen chat....we got rezed by a healer returned to our bodies and both were partially looted. Not by those three but by bystanders who later said in chat that they would just loot GIL not Vice and Siege was VERY happy about that.
So.....having a loot group not in your guild or alliance but letting them do the looting is the same thing as looting yourself, at least to me."  now you can take what bo said out of context and sure it makes bo look like a liar, but put it after that...  and guess what bo isn't lieing.  and you will be hard pressed to find a time where bo said it would be no loot and than bo had someone loot you..  can any of you make that statement???   Bo has attacked several people on peoples behalf the Bo hasn't liked but Bo said no loots or don't bother someone and a third party broke that, so bo killed them or chased them away.  Several of you have done spawns with Bo.  again when has Bo gone back on bo's word....  NEVER
stop trying to twist the Bo's words, stop tryin to change the subject. 
Bo is still waiting on hearing about this time yall got looted at a vvv event when maxipoo was on vacation.  this sounds like a great story Bo has never heard before. 
Title: Re: Sunday Arena Duels
Post by: Bo on March 02, 2019, 04:07:51 AM
So WOLFMAN you said "You never fough alongside Siege while Max was gone, since he left VICE.
Right, you never joined in on all the smacktalk when Siege was congratulating the looter on a job well done.....
as usual we are making things up and you have the truth!" 
But first you said this " While you were on vacation, basically the whole incident that stopped the Sunday fights: Siege, Bo and Cherokee (not 100% sure about him/her) fought us. We had 2 casualties and Siege was doing his usual smacktalk and Bo chimed in in gen chat....we got rezed by a healer returned to our bodies and both were partially looted. Not by those three but by bystanders who later said in chat that they would just loot GIL not Vice and Siege was VERY happy about that.
So.....having a loot group not in your guild or alliance but letting them do the looting is the same thing as looting yourself, at least to me."

at the time of Sunday VVV siege was in our alliance, yall stopped sunday VVV about the middle of June of last year.  And the Bo will have you know Max was not on vacation at that time.  Next yes Bo has had siege on bo's field when bo was outnumbered by yall.  when you go raid a bunch of people doing a krampus wtf you expect?  the people to not work together?  did we have an agreement at the krampus?? 
Now if we go back and look we will see MR WOLFMAN you are the one that seems to be confused here on your timeline. 
VVV ended june 2018, siege out of Vice round end of October 2018, max vacation Jan 2019.   How could what you say happened actually happen?
Title: Re: Sunday Arena Duels
Post by: Sarah on March 16, 2019, 11:41:52 AM
Wolfman is right about us stopping the Sunday VvV because of being looted when everyone agreed to no looting. I thought I could trust all of you on your word so I wore a despicable quiver and other nice pieces. The quiver was looted from me that day. I have no clue which month but I never played again with a group I could not trust. I will not read any replies or post again here. Just saw it and wanted to say that is why I quit.
Title: Re: Sunday Arena Duels
Post by: Max Blackoak on March 17, 2019, 09:17:05 AM
and clearly it had to have been one of us... we obviously were in on it. *rolls eyes*
Title: Re: Sunday Arena Duels
Post by: Bo on March 19, 2019, 01:24:08 AM
QuoteWolfman is right about us stopping the Sunday VvV because of being looted when everyone agreed to no looting. I thought I could trust all of you on your word so I wore a despicable quiver and other nice pieces. The quiver was looted from me that day. I have no clue which month but I never played again with a group I could not trust. I will not read any replies or post again here. Just saw it and wanted to say that is why I quit.
So you couldn't trust us?  How long did you participate in VVV Sundays?  This event went on basically vs us for about 2 years.  So 2 years wasn't enough of us killing and not looting anyone?  You may have been looted, did you see a VICE alliance member do it?  How many times you see a vice guy stand over your corpse during VVV?  we usually chasing the next kill.  Be real we all know that VVV sundays stopped because GIL thought the Vice alliance "scammed" (using your term) y'all at the auction when someone bought someone elses shit off of your vendor during the auction.  That and yall thought we were using cheats, like the running flamestrikes hahahah....
Title: Re: Sunday Arena Duels
Post by: Max Blackoak on March 19, 2019, 09:24:04 AM
The only GIL we ever looted during those VvV Sundays were the thieves to get their sigils and the sigils were the only thing looted.
Wait, there's one exception: when I switched to EC and wasn't used to the loot-by-right-click feature yet, I accidentally looted an item off of Joline Maza's corpse when I tried to close her corpse after taking the sigil. I believe it was an npc bought hatchet or something of similar value...

Apart from that VICE has held up the no looting agreement at all times while it lasted.

It is beyong our control when other players show up trying to take advantage. This has happened in the past too. As I said above, Ol' Dirty Basterd (either played by Amadeus or Billy Buttons) has looted during these events, as has a player called a rat and another one who's name I forgot (happened in Trinsic and we killed him/her right outside the main gate as he/she was trying to get away).